Comments on: The Collapse of the Anglican Church of Canada https://livingchurch.org/covenant/the-collapse-of-the-anglican-church-of-canada/ Fri, 06 Sep 2024 17:34:53 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.2 By: Jody Van Ness https://livingchurch.org/covenant/the-collapse-of-the-anglican-church-of-canada/#comment-14961 Fri, 06 Sep 2024 17:34:53 +0000 https://livingchurch.org/?p=79834#comment-14961 In reply to Jack Spratt.

What’s your definition for a Christian Canadian? Anyone who attends any sort of church? I know some here will disagree but I would only count people who say they are born again. And if you speak of born again Christians, the center of Anglicanism is in Africa. Some people above spoke disparagingly about first century ideas. Here’s my personal take on how to take fist century ideas.
1. Biblical Sexual intimacy occurs between one man and one woman in the state of holy matrimony ie: church marriage/Christian marriage.
2. Civil matrimony is legal for gay couples. Noone should be discriminated against because they are gay. They should have equal access to employment (except when the employer is a church or a church school) housing, partner visits to hospitals. In other words, it is our Christian duty to treat homosexuals kindly and fairly. And to examine ourselves for those sins common in the church: covetousness, greed, gossiping, gluttony and to strive to recognize and eradicate those sins.
3. The husband is the head of the wife, but the husband must be willing to lay down his life for his wife.

CS Lewis:
“Between different ages, there is no impartial judge on earth, for noone stands outside the historical process and, of course noone is so enslaved to it as those who take our own age to be not one more period, but a final and permanent platform from which we can see all other ages objectively.”

]]> By: JP Thorne https://livingchurch.org/covenant/the-collapse-of-the-anglican-church-of-canada/#comment-11298 Tue, 20 Aug 2024 02:58:10 +0000 https://livingchurch.org/?p=79834#comment-11298 I am not surprised with the conclusion. I drew a graph from 1966 to 2017 of the total number of members and got a straight line, R^2 ofover 0.95. The 2022 data was on the line, so there may be some questions but statistically it fit the curve. This curve went through zero in 2042. Based on numbers, I would say there should be at the most eight dioceses today. In 56 years the church is only now talking about this. The warning should have been raised in the 1980s. I have seen many active and growing churches but these seem to be the exception. My experience over the years is the majority of clergy just don’t know what to do. When proposing programs in my current church, I have faced resistance and stalling tactics by the priest. Judging by the other churches in the diocese and the national church this appears to be the norm. One can pray that the church can recover, which I believe is possible if the focus is on the Great Commission

]]> By: Philip https://livingchurch.org/covenant/the-collapse-of-the-anglican-church-of-canada/#comment-11069 Mon, 19 Aug 2024 06:47:37 +0000 https://livingchurch.org/?p=79834#comment-11069 To look at the Diocesan website you might think that the Diocese of the Yukon (Sunday attendance of the entire diocese average 191) was somehow a viable “Diocese” https://anglican.yukon.net/

]]> By: Richard Grand https://livingchurch.org/covenant/the-collapse-of-the-anglican-church-of-canada/#comment-10742 Fri, 16 Aug 2024 17:56:12 +0000 https://livingchurch.org/?p=79834#comment-10742 As a priest of nearly 50 years in the ACC, I have been through every debate and controversy we have had, beginning in the 1960s. I think that the Church has had talented leaders and has conducted its decision making wisely. There is always imperfection, but Canadian Anglicans are not a radical lot. However, whether it was the Ordination of Women, Liturgical change, or Same Sex matters, there have always been dissenters and attacks, It is shocking that the author of this article cites Anglican Samizdat as a source, since its writer has made slanderous personal attacks and is extremely homophobic and misogynistic. No doubt some persons enjoy a sense of schadenfreude, since church decline is music to their ears because they have all the answers. It has always happened that any problems in the ACC, despite important and irresistible external forces, both demographic and cultural, have almost. always been blamed on “change” in the crudest manner. No thought is given to what the Church would look like now if we were strictly where we were prior to the 1960s. Canada is a different place entirely. Any serious critic should realize that these are not all just Anglican problems, and that our culture and history has contributed to them.

]]> By: Matthew Neugebauer https://livingchurch.org/covenant/the-collapse-of-the-anglican-church-of-canada/#comment-10425 Wed, 14 Aug 2024 17:22:17 +0000 https://livingchurch.org/?p=79834#comment-10425 In reply to Peter Misiaszek.

Very much looking forward to that article next month!

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